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The Reverend wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 11:08 am The chairman stepping in and forcing the managers son out on loan absolutely wouldn’t cause any issues….

Overdone wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 11:27 am We won’t know why Obiero went on loan but Wellens didn’t. Personally I think it’s because CW can play in more positions than Obiero can. Others will cry nepotism or assume no L2 team would have him or whatever.

What would be the point of packing him off to NL? We’d have to recall Craig as midfield injury cover.

PKM wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 9:45 am Please, get CW a decent loan move, National League.
It will do everyone a massive favour, Charlie, Richie, the team, the fans, Nigel, Gandler, everyone.
Nigel needs to sort this out
With the impending return of Connolly, Gilbert’s form then there’s no room in the 18 for CW
Nigel needs to be forceful here and take the bul by the horns.
RW needs to be 100% concentrating and getting the very best out of what is a very strong squad.
There is a danger the toxicity from continuing to pick his son , despite his limited abilities ,is having a big negative effect.
Action needs to be taken.

North Stand Dave wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 12:01 pm

PKM wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 9:45 am Please, get CW a decent loan move, National League.
It will do everyone a massive favour, Charlie, Richie, the team, the fans, Nigel, Gandler, everyone.
Nigel needs to sort this out
With the impending return of Connolly, Gilbert’s form then there’s no room in the 18 for CW
Nigel needs to be forceful here and take the bul by the horns.
RW needs to be 100% concentrating and getting the very best out of what is a very strong squad.
There is a danger the toxicity from continuing to pick his son , despite his limited abilities ,is having a big negative effect.
Action needs to be taken.

I bet you stayed awake all night thinking about posting this?
We won yesterday against one of our bogey teams & all you do is post this sh.te.
We've been there done this, move on for Fu.k sake.

North Stand Dave wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 12:01 pm

PKM wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 9:45 am Please, get CW a decent loan move, National League.
It will do everyone a massive favour, Charlie, Richie, the team, the fans, Nigel, Gandler, everyone.
Nigel needs to sort this out
With the impending return of Connolly, Gilbert’s form then there’s no room in the 18 for CW
Nigel needs to be forceful here and take the bul by the horns.
RW needs to be 100% concentrating and getting the very best out of what is a very strong squad.
There is a danger the toxicity from continuing to pick his son , despite his limited abilities ,is having a big negative effect.
Action needs to be taken.

I bet you stayed awake all night thinking about posting this?
We won yesterday against one of our bogey teams & all you do is post this sh.te.
We've been there done this, move on for Fu.k sake.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 1:48 pm if we lost Richie because he was hounded out by people like PKM and Token then I would find that very hard to accept.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 1:48 pm

North Stand Dave wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 12:01 pm

PKM wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 9:45 am Please, get CW a decent loan move, National League.
It will do everyone a massive favour, Charlie, Richie, the team, the fans, Nigel, Gandler, everyone.
Nigel needs to sort this out
With the impending return of Connolly, Gilbert’s form then there’s no room in the 18 for CW
Nigel needs to be forceful here and take the bul by the horns.
RW needs to be 100% concentrating and getting the very best out of what is a very strong squad.
There is a danger the toxicity from continuing to pick his son , despite his limited abilities ,is having a big negative effect.
Action needs to be taken.

I bet you stayed awake all night thinking about posting this?
We won yesterday against one of our bogey teams & all you do is post this sh.te.
We've been there done this, move on for Fu.k sake.

If we lost Richie to a Championship club who came in for him then fair enough . However if we lost Richie because he was hounded out by people like PKM and Token then I would find that very hard to accept.

PKM wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 9:45 am Please, get CW a decent loan move, National League.
It will do everyone a massive favour, Charlie, Richie, the team, the fans, Nigel, Gandler, everyone.
Nigel needs to sort this out
With the impending return of Connolly, Gilbert’s form then there’s no room in the 18 for CW
Nigel needs to be forceful here and take the bul by the horns.
RW needs to be 100% concentrating and getting the very best out of what is a very strong squad.
There is a danger the toxicity from continuing to pick his son , despite his limited abilities ,is having a big negative effect.
Action needs to be taken.

Hoover Attack wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 2:44 pm

PKM wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 9:45 am Please, get CW a decent loan move, National League.
It will do everyone a massive favour, Charlie, Richie, the team, the fans, Nigel, Gandler, everyone.
Nigel needs to sort this out
With the impending return of Connolly, Gilbert’s form then there’s no room in the 18 for CW
Nigel needs to be forceful here and take the bul by the horns.
RW needs to be 100% concentrating and getting the very best out of what is a very strong squad.
There is a danger the toxicity from continuing to pick his son , despite his limited abilities ,is having a big negative effect.
Action needs to be taken.

Nonsense. The decision has to come from Richie. And if Richie can’t see it, PT and Prats need to be man enough to tell him.

I don’t think there’s any way WJ1 can get game time here with how the squad is looking. Even being on the bench yesterday was a stretch, Oyekunle should have been on there. So I fully expect something to be sorted out at some point in the near future.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 1:48 pm

North Stand Dave wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 12:01 pm

PKM wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 9:45 am Please, get CW a decent loan move, National League.
It will do everyone a massive favour, Charlie, Richie, the team, the fans, Nigel, Gandler, everyone.
Nigel needs to sort this out
With the impending return of Connolly, Gilbert’s form then there’s no room in the 18 for CW
Nigel needs to be forceful here and take the bul by the horns.
RW needs to be 100% concentrating and getting the very best out of what is a very strong squad.
There is a danger the toxicity from continuing to pick his son , despite his limited abilities ,is having a big negative effect.
Action needs to be taken.

I bet you stayed awake all night thinking about posting this?
We won yesterday against one of our bogey teams & all you do is post this sh.te.
We've been there done this, move on for Fu.k sake.

If we lost Richie to a Championship club who came in for him then fair enough . However if we lost Richie because he was hounded out by people like PKM and Token then I would find that very hard to accept.

Overdone wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 11:27 am I think it’s because CW can play in more positions than Obiero can

Mistadobalina wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 2:52 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 1:48 pm

North Stand Dave wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 12:01 pm

I bet you stayed awake all night thinking about posting this?
We won yesterday against one of our bogey teams & all you do is post this sh.te.
We've been there done this, move on for Fu.k sake.

If we lost Richie to a Championship club who came in for him then fair enough . However if we lost Richie because he was hounded out by people like PKM and Token then I would find that very hard to accept.

E10quence wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 3:42 pm

Overdone wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 11:27 am I think it’s because CW can play in more positions than Obiero can

CW has certainly been selected to play in more positions than Obiero... whether he actually has any ability to play in those positions is a different question... and I don't think any other manager in L1 would be starting CW in any other position than CM.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 4:08 pm

E10quence wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 3:42 pm

Overdone wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 11:27 am I think it’s because CW can play in more positions than Obiero can

CW has certainly been selected to play in more positions than Obiero... whether he actually has any ability to play in those positions is a different question... and I don't think any other manager in L1 would be starting CW in any other position than CM.

Apart from Ballard and a couple of others we had a misfiring squad last season . Add to that we had injuries to key players so not surprising Charlie was played in different positions .

E10quence wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 4:21 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 4:08 pm

E10quence wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 3:42 pm

CW has certainly been selected to play in more positions than Obiero... whether he actually has any ability to play in those positions is a different question... and I don't think any other manager in L1 would be starting CW in any other position than CM.

Apart from Ballard and a couple of others we had a misfiring squad last season . Add to that we had injuries to key players so not surprising Charlie was played in different positions .

No doubt, but I think in nearly all cases there would've been at least 1/2 alternative options available. Injury crisis wasn't that bad.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 4:38 pm

E10quence wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 4:21 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 4:08 pm

Apart from Ballard and a couple of others we had a misfiring squad last season . Add to that we had injuries to key players so not surprising Charlie was played in different positions .

No doubt, but I think in nearly all cases there would've been at least 1/2 alternative options available. Injury crisis wasn't that bad.

How well were those other options playing ?

Hoover Attack wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 2:37 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 1:48 pm if we lost Richie because he was hounded out by people like PKM and Token then I would find that very hard to accept.

This is getting embarrassing now. Have a word with yourself.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 3:59 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 2:52 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 1:48 pm

If we lost Richie to a Championship club who came in for him then fair enough . However if we lost Richie because he was hounded out by people like PKM and Token then I would find that very hard to accept.

Thanks for proving to me what I first thought of you .

E10quence wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 3:42 pm

Overdone wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 11:27 am I think it’s because CW can play in more positions than Obiero can

CW has certainly been selected to play in more positions than Obiero... whether he actually has any ability to play in those positions is a different question... and I don't think any other manager in L1 would be starting CW in any other position than CM.