Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 12:00 pm
cockhat wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 11:45 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 11:07 am

I agree . My QPR supporter friend at work told me Hayden's legs had gone . Looks like he was right. We're now going to need to sign another midfielder to replace him .
When?
When we signed him during the Summer . He said he looked like he was blowing out of his arse early in the second half . I think at Orient that has now moved to the first half as well . He went on to say they let him go and signed a major upgrade

I understand all that. The question was when are we going to be in a position to bring another player in.
My understanding is the club have spent out on all the summer signings.
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I thing that Haydens leg have gone not good enough sorry
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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cockhat wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 3:01 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 12:00 pm
cockhat wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 11:45 am

When?
When we signed him during the Summer . He said he looked like he was blowing out of his arse early in the second half . I think at Orient that has now moved to the first half as well . He went on to say they let him go and signed a major upgrade

I understand all that. The question was when are we going to be in a position to bring another player in.
My understanding is the club have spent out on all the summer signings.
Well, that’s a good question . Sorry mate,I don’t know . However it indicates our midfield is not going to be good enough for quite some time, I think Hayden was brought in to play Darren Prately’s role but he can’t do it .
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 5:22 pm
cockhat wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 3:01 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 12:00 pm

When we signed him during the Summer . He said he looked like he was blowing out of his arse early in the second half . I think at Orient that has now moved to the first half as well . He went on to say they let him go and signed a major upgrade

I understand all that. The question was when are we going to be in a position to bring another player in.
My understanding is the club have spent out on all the summer signings.
Well, that’s a good question . Sorry mate,I don’t know . However it indicates our midfield is not going to be good enough for quite some time, I think Hayden was brought in to play Darren Prately’s role but he can’t do it .
I agree, which probably means a lower table finish.
Darren Prately was an exception for his age and we were lucky to have him!
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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I've scanned this thread and its mostly about Hayden - and rightly too - and so is this. Hayden's position in the team setup seems to compromise El Miz's role and render him less effective. I think its the press, but I'm not totally sure. Hayden can't do it, or he does not lead it and so our press is very ineffective.
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In the stadium on Sat thought El Mizouni was poor, as he has been most of the season, but watching the 10 mins highlights package back, he was shocking, could barely move, constantly off the pace and behind his man, looked like he had been mainlining mogadon.
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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CharlieO wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 8:59 pm In the stadium on Sat thought El Mizouni was poor, as he has been most of the season, but watching the 10 mins highlights package back, he was shocking, could barely move, constantly off the pace and behind his man, looked like he had been mainlining mogadon.
Difficult to argue with that watching the highlights back.

However in pretty much all instances, there were sufficient defenders behind him to pick players up. But it looks like the back 3 have been told not to step out as they had been doing earlier in the season. If that’s the case, both he and especially Hayden need to be playing deeper to close that space.
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'Don't believe the old El Miz has gone for good. I think he must be carrying a significant injury. How else could he fall from so high to so low so fast?
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Orientnil wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2026 2:34 pm 'Don't believe the old El Miz has gone for good. I think he must be carrying a significant injury. How else could he fall from so high to so low so fast?
Are you saying our data guys have missed it ?
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Yes
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Orientnil wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2026 9:34 pmYes
Nooo,
So is it all down to our data guys
not being up to it ?
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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Orientnil wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2026 2:34 pm 'Don't believe the old El Miz has gone for good. I think he must be carrying a significant injury. How else could he fall from so high to so low so fast?
How many times do we hear RW say they players looked leggy, why? Is the intense training that I vaguely recall being mentioned a few times draining players before they even get to a game?
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